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Good afternoon from Southeast Asia. We are raining and storming and lightning

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and thunder and monsoon and cats and frogs and fish are falling from the

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sky and it's still 99 degrees. That's kind of cool, I guess. It is. It's fine if

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you don't have to do anything that exerts yourself because in 23 seconds

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your Griffin was swept. You've got to walk around with an umbrella. That's fun.

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I like that. But don't try to do anything else. Don't climb a flight of stairs for

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God's sake. Okay, so this is episode or volume number 16 of the Southeast Asia

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Chronicle podcast Things designed to help you figure out if you want to ever

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move to Southeast Asia. And if you do, first of all, can you afford it? What's

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it going to take? And then I guess next question is where are you going to go?

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All the countries are as affordable as the others. Pretty well, no. Not

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Singapore. Not Singapore, not Hong Kong. Nobody wants to go to Hong Kong now

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because the Chinese stole it. Mainland stole it. So nobody wants to go there. And I

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won't ever go back there. That was my go-to city. I loved it. It was my

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favorite city on earth. On earth for years and years and years and years. God, every

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chance I got I went there. I loved it. I loved it. I still do. I love Hong Kong.

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The people are okay. The Hong Kong, what do they call themselves? Hong Kongians, I

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don't know. Didn't really consider themselves Chinese. They were Hong Kong.

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And they loathed and detested the mainland Chinese who came into Hong Kong.

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They actually had to go through immigrations to get to Hong Kong because

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the Hong Kong, Hong Kongers, that's what it is, Hong Kongers. Couldn't stand them.

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Couldn't stand them. They're just rude and crude and stupid and foul and dirty and

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insulting and how many adjectives you want, you know? Let's get the thesaurus out.

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Hong Kongers just hated them. Hated them. And now China, of course, stole it. Just

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stole it. Like they steal everything. And I don't know how many Hong Kongers left.

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Huge, huge numbers. That's it. We're out of here. That's our home. We're not raised there.

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We love it. But we can't live with these people. And that's how I feel too. I could,

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there's no possible way. If the mainlanders are in there, no, it's not going to happen.

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I'd be in jail. I may hold out a week. And I'll tell you why in a minute.

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Okay. All tapes are copyright 2023 by StockPhotosWorldwide.com.

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You can go there to find these. Link is near the top. Or you can go there to find the alien

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podcasts. Or you can go to theyclaim.com or you can go to a whole bunch of other places. Or the

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RSS feeds. Pretty much not so much YouTube. We just won't deal with them because of their

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censorship and the way they've treated people in the past, including us. I can't imagine what

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it would take to get us to do business with YouTube. I don't know what it would take. I can't

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imagine anything they could do right now. So anyway, we're not on YouTube really. We've got

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just a handful of episodes on there just to maintain a channel. But we don't do anything with them.

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Let's not even go there. I'd be melting down. Okay. So the last episode, we left you talking

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about nationalities that you would find in Thailand. Most guys, the majority of the guys,

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go to Thailand for a variety of reasons. The visa is easy. Prices are good. Lots of stuff to see.

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Most guys, poor dumb bastards. They go for the girls. Poor dumb bastards. They don't know what

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they're getting into. They honestly don't. Maybe these tapes will help them a little,

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but probably not. They hear all the bad things about the girls and they just don't hear the

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bad things about the girls. They just don't hear them. It's like Southeast Asians and chickens.

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Okay. If you move to Southeast Asia, you better learn to get used to chickens, crowing chickens,

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all night, all night, all night. Doesn't matter. You're in the city, outside the city, in the

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province. It doesn't matter. Chickens are like air or rain. Well, no, more rain because rain

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stops once in a while. Chickens don't. It will be in many, many, many, many living situations,

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it will be impossible for you to sleep. I don't mean uncomfortable. I don't mean your sleep is

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going to be fitful. I mean, it's going to be almost impossible. Impossible. You're going to

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have to get earplugs. It'll help a little. I used to turn on a bunch of either white noise or ambient

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noise. I had a tape that would just loop continuously. It was like two or three hours of rain and

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kind of stormy sounds from the desert that I had recorded when I lived in the desert. I know the

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sounds of it. It was better than white noise because it was real noise. That would loop at

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the end. I just played it all night. When I heard chickens, I turned it up. It worked fairly well.

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You can put your plugs on top of that. You could try noise canceling some things. Some of them are

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really, really, really good, but the batteries will run dead. If you just try to normally sleep,

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you're not going to do it. Chickens are going to drive you insane. Chickens are going to drive

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you to killing, murdering, homicide of your neighbors. You're going to go to them. If it's

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really a big problem, you're going to go to them and say, hey, hey, hey, Bob, how you doing? How

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you doing? Well, I'm doing good. Thank you. And you know, Bob, I've lived in Southeast Asia a while

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now. And I understand about chickens. I understand that you like to eat them. Tastes good. Oh, they're

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tasty. And they're easy to raise and they're cheap, you know. I like them too. I like everything about

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chickens, Bob. Except I can't sleep and I'm really, really tired. After five months of not sleeping,

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I go to sleep. You know, Bob, if you can't do something about these chickens, I got to go get

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a hotel because I can't sleep at all. I never could. So what can we do, Bob? You know, at

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nighttime, could you put them, you know, like over there in the shed. Could you do that, Bob? And

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maybe you suggest two or three things and they're just staring at you like deer in headlights.

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Doesn't matter what country. Just what? What? And at the end of your little tirade, you're polite,

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polite. Little tirade. They'll say, well, we got some chickens, but they don't make any noise. And

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they will stick to that for the day and day. And you will, you might end up saying, Bob, you're

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lying. You're a lying piece of shit. Here's the recording. You know, it's on my phone, Bob.

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Oh, fricking night. You know, roosters don't just do that shit in the morning. Oh, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no. They do it all good night. Depending on the rooster, but most of them.

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And Bob would just insist that they don't make any sound. What are you talking about? Are you

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crazy, Philaing? You just come, you want to make trouble. And if you push it at all, at all, then

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you make an enemy for life. You'll never patch it up. And Bob will tell his wife and his wife goes

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around tells every woman in the village or in the province that you're a flaming asshole,

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Philaing making up stories about their chickens. And everybody will say, yeah, we heard about that

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from Philaings. You know, they like to do that because they're assholes. Pretty soon, they all

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hate you. I mean, they really viscerally hate you. There's nothing you could ever do that will undo

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it. And your wife is mortified. Your girlfriend's mortified. Your kids are afraid to go to school.

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No, I'm not kidding you. This is how it will go. This is the path it will take if you start pushing

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back against the chickens. And of course you're thinking, well, Bob's just a lying piece of

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fucking shit. He's just a fucking piece of shit. He's just rude and he's inconsiderate, inconsiderate

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to the nth degree. Fuck Bob. You know, pretty soon you got a feud going. Well, it's you against the

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entire region, you know? And how do you think that's going to turn out? You know, things are

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going to happen to your car, your motorbike, your cat's going to disappear, probably your dog. Well,

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they're going to barbecue that turkey, you know, so he's not going to waste anyway.

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I might even invite you over. Let's try to patch this up here, Jake. Here, have a little hunk of steak.

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I'm not kidding you, not even slightly. So how does this situation come to be? Is Bob a lying piece,

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you sack of shit? Just trying to make trouble? No, Bob is not. Here's what you got to know about

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chickens. Here's, nobody understands this unless you've been here a long, long time and lived in

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the provinces with your wife and her family and you see them, you know, they're all in the same

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places with your wife and her family and you learn and you see what goes on. Okay, here's the secret

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to chickens. The people don't hear them. They don't hear them at all. It's because the day they were

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born, heard a bunch of chickens. And by the time they're a week old, the brain figures out, oh,

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chickens aren't important. Turn them out. Turn them off. Don't hear them anymore. Okay.

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And they hone that ability their entire lives. They don't hear the chickens.

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And they don't believe that you do either. They think you're just a trouble-making asshole.

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And there's nothing you can do to convince them. Playing back tapes, that didn't help anything.

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Some guys have taken to recording their chickens and then in the middle of the night, the playing

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backs are loudspeaker mounted on their roof, pointed right at the neighbor's house. Only 46

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times louder than the chickens really were. It freaks out the chickens. But the idea is to

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give the neighbor a taste of what he's given you. And he'll just call the cops and the cops will

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arrest you. Take your loudspeaker. Maybe even throw you out of the country. So get your earplugs. You

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get whatever you're going to get. You get your ambient noise, your white noise, whatever you

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want. Whatever you're going to do. And you don't bring it up. Not one time, not ever, not ever.

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Some guys have mentioned, they've thought, well, okay, that's not going to work. I'm not going to

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sleep with your plugs. How about if I get a hold of that family and I pay them, I make a contract

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with them. Regular legal contract. The contract says I will give them, you know, 2000 bucks,

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4,000 pesos every month, whatever. If they get rid of all the chickens within 24 hours and they

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never have another one. I don't know, guys have threatened something like that quite a bit. I

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don't know of anybody who's ever followed through on it and tried it. I suspect what would happen

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is they would take the money cheerfully and the chickens would all be gone in, you know,

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not 24 hours, they'd be gone in a week. They're really hard to sell. You know, we can't find homes

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for this one. And it would take a week, but they'd probably all be gone. But then after a few weeks,

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the chickens start showing up again. And you think, okay, Bob, motherfucker, reach a contract.

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You know, now you're toast. Now you're mine. You broke the contract. And you stomp over there.

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And you say, Bob, look at this thing you signed. You said you wouldn't have any chickens.

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Oh, I don't have any chickens. I don't know where those came from. I think maybe my cousin left

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them here, you know, just for a week because he's going to town, something like that. They're not

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our chickens. No, no, no, no, no. We would never have chickens because we signed that contract and

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we want that money. But, you know, maybe you could sign a contract with my cousin, you know,

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like that. Maybe that would... Okay. That's how it's going to go. So fuck the chickens.

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Forget the chickens or whatever else they got going. The dogs, they don't hear dogs either.

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There have been times in my life when I had a lot of noise going on like that, really intrusive,

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annoying, irritating noise. And I learned to tune it out. I remember one time I was in the desert in

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New Mexico, Southern New Mexico. And I was over to neighbor's house and we were outside.

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And we were just talking, passing the time about some damn thing, watching the pigs, I think, or

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something. And pretty much at the same time, we both stopped. We had funny looks on both of our faces,

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just looking at each other. And one of us or the other or both of us,

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kind of cocked our head like, do you hear that? Do you hear that? And the other one is like,

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no, no, I don't. But something is weird. Something is wrong. What's going on? And then it hit us just

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about the same time. We didn't hear anything because the ambient noise that we'd been listening to for

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seven months that was nonstop had just stopped for the first time in seven months. And our brains

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couldn't compute that until we figured out what it was. The ambient noise was thunder.

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This was an area on the Mugion Rim down, New Mexico's version of the Mugion Rim cuts through

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Arizona and it kind of peters out over in New Mexico. But it was just an area of supremely

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violent summer weather that came up mostly out of Mexico. Thunder and lightning like I've never

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seen before. We actually, our car actually got hit with a Cherokee, Jeep Cherokee thing, got

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struck on the hood driving down the freeway. Never stopped. And we tuned it out. We learned to tune

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it out. It's the same way with the chickens. They tune it out. They don't hear it. I got

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it. I've been in situations where they were shooting all the time, all the time. Just pop,

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pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, you know, like that. Never stopped for,

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really for months. And I tuned that out. So if I can do that, you know, in my old age,

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relatively old adult at least, over the period of a few months, the indigenous people of Southeast

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Asia, they started learning that the day they were born. And you think how entrenched and how

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how well developed that skill is in their brains by now, by the time they're 40,

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they don't hear their own chickens. They don't hear their neighbors chickens. They don't hear

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chickens. Okay. Let it go. That's one of the things you've got to choke down when you think,

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when you decide before you decide to move to Southeast Asia, any country, even to some degree,

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Singapore, probably not Hong Kong. Well, no, no, no, God, that's not true. So in Hong Kong also,

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a little bit, not too much, a little bit. Very little, actually. Well, depends on where you are.

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Okay. I've seen people in Hong Kong keep them in their condos because it's their lifestyle.

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They're born into it. They can't, they can't exist without live chickens. They just cannot. I mean,

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you got to have a cat, they got to have a chicken, you know, or two or three. Jesus, great. Okay. So

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just let it go. Just stop it. Stop it. Stop, you know, just do a little lobotomy, cut out that part

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of your brain, the whole chicken part of your brain, cut it out, cut it out, you know,

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do something to it. I don't know, freeze it or something. So it doesn't function anymore.

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Forget the chickens. Don't talk about them. Don't bitch about them. Your wife is going to think

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you're crazy and you're just going to embarrass her. She's going to feel sad that she hooked up

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with such a stupid fling, causes trouble through the village, you know. Just don't do it. Just

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don't go there. Don't go to chicken town. Really don't go to crazy town. Don't go, don't, well,

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you're already in crazy town, but don't go to chicken town. I mean, that's a suburb of crazy

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town. Dogs are pretty much the same issue. No, not pretty much. They are. They are the same issue.

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They're the same issue. Dogs that bite are a different story. There are some remedies for that.

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Southeast Asia, the remedies aren't good. In the U.S., the remedies are good. You call animal

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control, you're gone. Southeast Asia, no, you got to be creative and you got to think and act and

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work outside the box. I don't, I'm not going to go there. I don't think you're going to have to go

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Googling to figure that one out. Okay. Forget chickens. What else? What else are we doing? I

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don't know how we got a chicken. Holy crap. Okay. I'm looking here. I'm just looking at this

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wolfman face in the mirror. I mean, in the camera, I get a hair cut tomorrow. Oh, this is looking

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terrible. Terrible. Not really professional. People always ask me what do things cost in

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Southeast Asia? Well, it depends on the country a little bit. Hong Kong was effing expensive.

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Singapore is effing expensive. Malaysia is a little more expensive. Cambodia is stupid. Well,

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I was going to say stupid, inexpensive. Cambodia is for many things, they're stupid, inexpensive.

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For many things, I found food in Cambodia to be stupid, expensive. I'm not really a shopper,

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you know, I'm not a coupon clipper and I don't follow that closely, but I found food to be

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damned expensive in Cambodia all over. Of course, you got to realize also that you're in Philaing

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food. You're not eating Khmer food, you know, and same in all the countries. If you want to eat

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their food, if you want to eat rice and papaya and pineapple, pretty cheap, pretty cheap, really

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stinking shockingly cheap, but you're going to get really, really tired of that. You're going to want

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Philaing food sometimes and you're going to pay through the ass for it. So tomorrow I'll go get

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a haircut. I can get one even in central Manila, a nice part of Manila, I can still get one for,

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well, it's expensive, it's just freaking expensive.

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I got a friendly barber, I got to walk about a mile, about a mile to get to him. He's got a little

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shop, it's got a top over it and the sides consist of adjacent buildings. But it's a nice little shop

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and a couple of guys in there and they're good and not usually all that busy. And they are, let's see,

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140 pesos, 140 pesos. What the hell, what the hell is 100 pesos? I think that's

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$1.80, 100 pesos is about $1.80, $1.60, something like that, I believe.

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I think so. I got too many currencies running through my head. It's like, I don't know,

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$3, something like that. No more than three bucks. And you get a nice, good quality haircut.

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Okay, that's too far to walk. There's another one I can go two blocks and it's a regular salon.

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It's a biggish salon in their own establishment. Beautiful girls at the counter, you know, the whole

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bit. Nice decor, soft lighting, soft music. Got about 12, 14 stylists in there. They'll do anything

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you want, anything you want. They got books, you know, this is a normal salon, excuse me, a normal

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salon. You can pick up whatever style you want, change your whole style. They'll take about 45

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minutes on a haircut. Very careful. Trim every hair, facial hair, everything trimmed. And when

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they're done, you get a full massage. And that's eight bucks. Let's see, 500 pesos, that's about

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eight. No, it's about, it might be nine bucks. It might be 9.20, something like that. Okay, so

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that's indicative of a lot of prices. Southeast Asia, except for Singapore, Hong Kong.

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So tomorrow, you know, I shall do that and I'll

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have to go take out a loan, you know, to get that done.

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Okay, cost of living in various countries. I get notes from the last episode or two or three that I

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haven't dealt with here. Cost of living in various Southeast countries. Well, we talked about Hong

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Kong, Singapore, which one's more expensive? Man, I'm not sure. I'm thinking Hong Kong. Well,

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I don't know what, since the Chinese took over, I don't know what has happened to their economy.

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Lots and lots of people left. I mean, like, I don't know what happened to the economy.

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Lots and lots of people left. I mean, like hundreds of thousands, I think, left.

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And England said, yeah, come on here. You know, you're welcome. Come on in. All welcome, you know.

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And so they did. They just flooded and England gave them passports and maybe citizenship. I don't

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know. Because Hong Kong was a British colony. Is that the correct word for what the British did

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there? The British made it what it was, which is one of the most highly functioning cities on earth,

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on earth. And the British did that. Chinese didn't do it. British did it.

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And then the British left and made China sign a contract saying, look, you know, don't fuck with

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them. It's working. Why fuck with it? Why change it? Why mess it up? Just leave them alone for 50 years.

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And the Chinese said, yeah, that's fair because, you know, you built Hong Kong. We didn't.

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You built it. You made it work. You showed everybody how to make a beautiful city. You showed

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them how to make it a rich city, successful beyond anybody's wildest dreams. OK, so that's fair.

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You know, we'll just leave it alone because we ain't going to fix what ain't broken. And

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England's like, yeah, OK, thank you. Shake up. And they did sign a massive contract.

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And the British pulled up, went home, and then it was some number of years, just a few years later,

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Chinese said, well, you know, yeah, they they built it. They created Hong Kong, but they're

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gone now. You know, what are they going to do if we just take it? What would the Ferengi say? What

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would a Ferengi do? They would just take it. What would the Chinese do? They just take it

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because the Chinese are the Ferengi. Jesus Christ. So anyway, Hong Kong, Singapore, expensive.

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Malaysia, a little more expensive. Not too good. The rest of the countries, the core countries,

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they're cheap, but getting less cheap every year. I had not been to the Philippines for like eight

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years. And then I just came, you know, six months ago, whatever, came out of Romania, came here.

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And I was shocked at the price increases, shocked. And so are the people, so are the Filipinos.

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They're like, what, what, what, what? A bag of rice cost how much now? What? OK.

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Of course, I'm in the very pinnacle of the richest, richest section of all the Philippines.

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So that's a big factor. Thailand was pretty affordable. It was OK. You're going to pay for

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some Western things, you know, because they got to ship them in small quantities.

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And they got to take a chance on them not selling because they don't really understand

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philangs. They don't know what they're going to buy for sure. So they're afraid to really

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bring too much in. It doesn't sell, it doesn't sell, and they're out that money.

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So they got to make a pretty hefty profit on the stuff that they do bring in.

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The thing that I found in way too many cases was that

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the prices got so obnoxious for philang food stuffs and for actually for all kinds of other stuff too.

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And the prices got so odious, so dishonest that I could order that same stuff on Amazon

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very often for half the price, even with shipping. And if I ordered something

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in a little town, you know, a hundred miles outside of Bangkok, it was going to take

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four days, if you're really lucky, probably more like eight, nine, ten days, maybe two weeks to show up.

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Half the time it was going to be the wrong thing. It was going to be a broken thing.

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I mean, a really high percentage of the times. Or, and it was going to be expensive, stupidly

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expensive, or I could order it from Amazon. I mean, it was going to be a really expensive

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Amazon. And it would show up in, depending on the shipping you got, you could get it there in three days.

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And many times even with shipping, it would be half the price of what the local Thailand

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shops were going to charge you. And I just did that increasingly. But the problem was that Thai

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customs will steal a large percentage of what you order in. And we'll talk about Thai customs later.

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Amazon, luckily, just refunds. If it doesn't show up on your doorstep, on the delivery date,

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for whatever reason, even if customs stole it and you can document that they stole it,

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Amazon refunds. And then Amazon goes and fights with them. And in my experience, Amazon never got

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a single thing back. Thai customs just keeps it. It's a huge Thai customs racket, mostly coming out

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of Soorinapum Airport, where some of the big customs installations are. It's a mess.

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So all the countries are going to be more or less the same as far as cost of living.

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Bangkok itself has gotten more expensive. Go to Isan, you're going to live for pennies,

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but nobody wants to live in Isan. Who wants to live in the center of a pool table

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that's 500 miles by 500 miles and nowhere to go? God, I lived out there. Oh my God. It was...

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Every day I sharpen my little plastic picnic knife, just in case I had to go for the karate.

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Come on. Oh God, one more day of this shit. Okay. There are jungly places,

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more north. You can get up in the mountains a little bit. It's a little bit cooler. They're

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cheaper, but they're still going to be expensive. And especially when they see you come and you've

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got white skin, the price is going to go two, three times. And sometimes, many times,

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and this really pisses people off. They will have a sign for a service or some goods,

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and they will say Thai price, 100 baht. Phlaing price, 250 baht. Same item.

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And that's especially true when you're trying to get in some place like a park,

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even national parks, something like that, or lots of entertainment venues, stuff like that.

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It didn't... It never bothered me that much because I understand that

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they're only doubling or tripling the price. Okay. We have, as a Phlaing, we have

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somewhere probably between 10 and a hundred times as much money as the Thais.

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So if they're only doubling the price for us, it wasn't really that bad. And these places are

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struggling anyway because the Thais can't afford to pay an extra $100,000. And so,

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the Thais can't afford to pay enough to keep them going. So they got to get money where they can.

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It bothered me just a teensy little bit in the back of my brain, but some guys go crazy over it.

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They're just crazy shrieking, F Thailand, F Thais. Well, it happens all over Southeast Asia. So you've

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got to say F Southeast Asia. I did not see it ever, ever, ever happen in Singapore or Hong Kong.

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It might. I never saw it. What would be the very, very, very, very cheapest country to go to,

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to try to live if you haven't got much money? What would be the very cheapest one?

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Probably Burma. Get out in the province, get out on the sticks. You're not going to survive out there alone.

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You've got to have a girlfriend. Probably, probably Burma. I know Lao is pretty,

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pretty cheap. I lived in Paksay for a while, then to Wienchen a number of times, but I lived in Paksay.

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It was just normal rural small town living.

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I lived really, really well, but I couldn't get the stuff I wanted to live really, really well

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for any price. For a long time, I lived in the palace of the, one of the previous kings,

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and he and his wife had been killed up in, well up in Wienchen. Some bullshit thing, I don't know,

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some ne'er-do-well killed him. Of course they didn't come back to the palace.

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And about that time their economy was tanking as a nation or a kingdom. And so they,

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the government just took over the palace and made it kind of a hotel, but they had some apartments.

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Also, you could get by the month. And I got one up on top of the building.

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It's a nice apartment. Just sat out there by itself on top of the building.

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The palace. I remember I showed up there in a tuk-tuk with, well, their tuk-tuks are not like

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Thailand tuk-tuks. Their tuk-tuks hold, I don't know, 40, 50, 60 people. They're like dump trucks,

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you know, cattle trucks. And so that thing was full and they're going around dropping people off

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in Paksie. And I was in there with my girlfriend. Oh my God. Jesus. This flaming red hair, redhead.

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Laotian girl. Redheads are fiery. Did you know that? It's a gene. I swear to God. It's a gene.

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Jesus Christ. Oh God. Stories. I get stories later. So anyway, we're in this big tuk-tuk thing,

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cattle truck, and they're dropping people off and everybody's getting dropped off at, you know,

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$2 a night flop houses, a lot of backpackers and shit like that. We had just come from

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the Mekong. We'd been on the Mekong for a long time, a month and a half, something like that.

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Just screwing around. And that was over by the Vietnam border towards it. And then we went from

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there to the Vietnam border, took our motorbikes, went to the Vietnam border. Okay. So we're in this

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tuk-tuk thing and we come, we're dropping all these people off of their $2 flop houses. And then they

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come to the palace and it's a regular palace. I don't know how many rooms they had. Hundreds,

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hundreds of rooms, one building. All white, huge columns out in front. You know, it looked

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about as impressive as the White House, you know, pretty cool. And I was booked into there for an

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apartment. Cool. And we rolled up to that thing in a big private, private entrance thing and

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everybody's, oh God, what are we doing here? And they're actually knocking on the cab with the

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truck. Nobody here is going here. You know, why are we stopping? They stopped and we hopped out

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and everybody, who are those people? Oh shit, I should have got their pictures. And we stayed

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there quite a while and had a mostly nice time, but it was cheap. Even that thing was cheap,

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dirt cheap, dirt cheap. It was nice. Vietnam, I found Vietnam to be a little expensive.

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I was only around Saigon in that region. I did not go to Hanoi. Specifically, I did not go there.

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I didn't want to go there. Too many people told me too many things. I found Vietnam a little

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expensive, you know, and hard to get stuff also. At that time, Saigon only had one mall, as I recall.

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They had, you know, they had some little teeny tiny mall kind of sort of things owned by private

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people. I don't even know who owned them. They were shit. They were shit. But they had one,

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quote unquote, real mall. And it wasn't very big at all. You know, it's like probably a

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god, I don't know, a tenth the size of a mall you would find in Philippines or

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might not even be a tenth the size. That was their mall. Anyway, it was a government mall

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because they're communist, you know, because the U.S. lost and communism swept in like a cancer,

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took over everything. So the mall in Saigon, I don't, they probably get other ones by now.

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The mall at that time was the government, the official government mall. That's where you're

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supposed to go to shop. And so we went in there to look around and you're met by armed guards

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out front and they would let you in. I think I can't remember if you had that sign your name

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or anything. I can't remember. Pretty formal. And then you go up, it was only about three floors,

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not a very big building. And we wanted to go into a department store and they had armed guards at

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the door of that. And they, in bad English, they said, what do you want? And we said, well,

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we started just walk past them and they got in front of us and said, what do you want? Where

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are you going? We said, well, we're going, you know, there we're going in this mall, in this

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department store. Why? Well, we're what you call shoppers. You ever heard of that?

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What do you want to buy? Well, I don't really know. I want to look and see what they have.

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You know, can we do that? Well, sign, you must sign and show passport. And we're like, really?

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Really? And we did. And we get in and walked around. We were in there four or five minutes

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and they had nothing that we even want to look at, walked out. Vietnam was like that a lot

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in those days. I don't know. I haven't been back there for a long time. I get some family going

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there in a few weeks. We'll find out an update from them. Let's see what else you got. Malaysia.

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There's some perks to Malaysia. The crime may be possibly is a little lower in Malaysia. Go

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around, go look around Georgetown, Kuala Lumpur. Singapore. If you had, well, I was going to say,

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if you had a lot of money, you could retire in Singapore, but even if you have a lot of money,

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it's difficult. They don't want you to just retire there. They want you to be in a

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kind of corporate business thing, a big thing, not a small thing, a big thing, big money.

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They only want big money. They want to be a financial center. Period. That's all they want.

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And they suppose some people must have to also live there. That's kind of unseemly, but

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they'll let them, they suppose. If you had really a lot of money, you'd go in there and drop a mill

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and you start a corporation and then you can live your life out there. It doesn't really matter

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if you make any money or not. And for some people, Singapore would be heaven on earth.

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I thought it was when I first started going there. I thought, my God, how can I get in here? How can I

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get out? Oh God, I want to live here. This is my heaven. This is my bed that's just right.

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And then I went back again and again and spent more time, more time, more time. And

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pretty quickly, I got to the point where I thought, well, I'm going to go back to Singapore.

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And pretty quickly, like in two weeks, I realized I had seen everything there was to see because

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it's a city nation. It's not a country. It's just a city nation that resides within the country of

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Malaysia. It's not Malaysia. It's Singapore, but resides in the city, the country of Malaysia.

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Malaysia is big. It's got everything. Singapore is small. It's a nice city, really honest,

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really quiet, really safe. You could live a nice life in Singapore, but they don't want you unless

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you've got a big corporation or you work for one. Go over to Borneo. That's the home of the last

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orangutans, the last wild ones on earth. Jungly, jungly, jungly. The people are not friendly.

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It's not a tourist location, so they aren't conditioned to having weird people hanging

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around taking pictures of shit. They don't like it. But you could carve out a life. It's cheap.

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You could carve out a life there. It's cheap because there are no tourists.

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Learn to speak their language. That's your key to almost any country anywhere on earth. You learn

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their language and you learn it well. You're fluent, not just cobbling together stupid sentences.

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You're fluent. You got a feel for it and you can actually talk. Get rid of your accent. Get their

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accent to the degree possible. There's other places around there. Some people like Indonesia.

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I don't know too many who do.

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It's a little bit crazy. Getting more expensive.

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Quite a bit more expensive. Not a lot of

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type. Life on the beaches. There's not a lot of life anywhere else.

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Let's see what else you got. Philippines. We got India.

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Oh, that reminds me. I got another note here. Somebody said,

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what kind of idiot are you? You said you loved all East Indians. But what about this and this

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and this and this and this? I'm like, oh, got me. Yeah, baby, you got me. Fair and square, you got me.

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Okay. I said in the last tape that I liked East Indians and I'd get along with them. Well, I do.

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I get along with them. That doesn't mean they're all angelic.

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One of the things that I did not like about them and that shocked me really quite a bit when I saw

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them in action around various Southeast Asian countries, but there's more of them in Thailand.

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There's quite a few of them in Philippines also. It's a different class of them in Philippines

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than it is in Thailand. In Thailand, it's guys and they want girls and that's all they want.

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That's all they want. And they don't have any money. They don't have any money. They don't have

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any money. They barely got there from India. Barely. I think they hid in the goddamn

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landing gear compartment, you know, half of them. But they made it to Thailand. Who knows? They got

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money to get home and they get off the plane. They want girls. They want girls right in the airport.

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They want them right now. Right now. Right now. You know, we'll take you somewhere. We'll

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fuck you in the back of the cab. All of us together. You know, we'll fuck you in the back of the cab.

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All of us together. You know, and we're going to give you a dollar fifty, you know. Oh God,

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Ethan, is that okay? Is that okay? Okay. That's their attitude. I know a lot of bar girls and

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street girls who were badly, badly, badly mistreated by them. And I watched them argue with these girls

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continuously. The girls would be on the street and whatever their going price was, you know,

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street girls, oh God, it might be, probably the average was, well, yeah, shit. I mean, they would

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ask for 1,500 bucks. And nobody paid that for the street girls. They would, they just come down and

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down and down. And most of them would not go below about 800 bucks. Some of them would go down to 500 bucks.

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I was sitting one day drinking Starbucks and this gorgeous girl came along and

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stopped at my table and wanted to know if I wanted her. And I said, no, no, no, thank you.

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My outcome can crud. You're beautiful. Why not? Well, I,

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I just, you know, that's it. I'm married. I'm married. And she said, it's okay. We boom, boom.

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Anyway, I don't care. Well, you know, I wasn't married, but I just tried to make her go away.

400
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And she said something like, 1,000 bucks. You fuck me now. And I'm like, no, no, thank you. No,

401
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no, really. No, thank you. And then she's 800 bucks and then she's 500 bucks and then she's

402
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300 bucks. And she just kept going. And she got down to 150 bucks, which is five bucks.

403
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And I had to get really consistent, you know, time to go.

404
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And she finally did. She hated me because I wouldn't take her for 150 bucks.

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Anyway, the East Indians will get them, find them out there on the street,

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mall and the restaurant, whatever. It doesn't matter. They don't care. They don't care.

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And they would say, how much? And not that many of them want to take a girl alone. They

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come in pods, little gangs of them. Always, it seemed like at least two, but very often four or

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five. And they all want the same girl. And they would say how much? And she would say, you know,

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1,200 bucks, whatever, which is a little high. And they just throw up their hands and start to

411
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walk away. No, no, you are a scammer. Oh, you are a bad girl. You know, on and on like that. English

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was the only common language they had. And it was bad for both of them. And then she's like, well,

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700 bucks for each. And they're like, oh, no, we cannot, cannot pay, cannot pay. And it just

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went on like that. And they were, they, they, I don't know if they were not, but they would act just

415
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incensed that she wanted 700 bucks for each of them. They say, no, 700 bucks for all.

416
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And, and the haggling would go back and forth. And I would say something like 90% of the time,

417
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they never came to a deal. And these guys stop off. I know one girl, I was in the bar one day and

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a girl came in. She was talking about, she just had a date with an East Indian guy.

419
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And so she's on the bed in the slimy, stinky hot hotel and, and he gets done. And he gets up.

420
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And he opens the door to another room or something. It's like five other guys in there.

421
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They're waiting, waiting for their turn. And he says, oh, you can fuck my friend. You can fuck my

422
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friend. No, no, no, you must pay. And so the same haggling shit went back and forth. She's still

423
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naked on the bed. And they got her down to like 150 bucks for each one extra. And they were like,

424
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okay, I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you. And they all came in, took turns, catered the

425
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,600
amount that they agreed on. Cause the girls will call the cops if they don't pay what they promised.

426
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They'll call the cops. The cops will come and they won't arrest the girl for prostitution,

427
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even though it's technically illegal. They won't do anything to the girl. They'll ream the guys

428
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because the cops depend on the revenue from the girls. Okay. So the girls are their cash cow.

429
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They're not going to fuck them. They don't care about the guys. And so the cops would make them

430
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pay. They would intimidate them into paying or, you know, okay, we go to station, we go to station.

431
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Now the chief want to talk to you, you know, like that. And they would collect all their passports

432
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and they were just intimidated. So, so they learned pretty quickly. The word got around that you don't,

433
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you know, whatever you agree to pay to the girl, that's what you fucking pay. So anyway,

434
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they got all of them done. Jesus Christ, that's grisly. That's just revolting to me. Just

435
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:49,040
revolting. No condoms. And I knew this girl somewhat. Talked to her a bunch of times. Anyway,

436
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:58,720
they all got done. Okay. And she got up, got dressed. Normally she would take a shower. She said,

437
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you don't want to take a shower because she was afraid they would fuck her. So she got up,

438
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,800
got dressed, and she went to the bathroom. So she just put her clothes on all over her nasty,

439
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:25,600
gripping self. How's the visuals going for you there, Bob? And she waddled on back to the bar

440
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:35,200
and the other girls could tell something kind of big had happened, you know. And what happened?

441
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What happened? And she starts talking about it and she actually was perfectly okay with it.

442
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,240
She told them exactly what happened. All the other guys come in, they start haggling and they get her

443
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down to 150 bucks for each extra one. The first one had to pay the whatever it was. I think he

444
00:54:53,440 --> 00:55:00,640
got down to like 300 or 400 bucks. I can't remember. And then there was a total of seven. So

445
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it was the one guy plus six friends, a total of seven. And they all fucked her and fucked her

446
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and fucked her. They're horny little rabbit bastards. You know, half of them have never had

447
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:21,840
a real girl in their lives. Oh God. And when they get a real one, you ain't going to stop them for

448
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quite a while until their batteries run down. So she earned it. She earned it. She worked. Well,

449
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she didn't work hard. She just laid there. She's not going to do anything for 150 bucks. She's

450
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,720
not going to do anything. She's not even going to moan. She's not even going to do a fake moan.

451
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She's going to lay there, probably played on her phone, you know, whatever. Are you done? Okay.

452
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Next. Come on. Come on. Lulu, come on. And so she's back in the bar. She's telling

453
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the story and she's laughing because she said that was the easiest money she ever made.

454
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She said she would have done it for less than 150 bucks a head because she just had to lay there.

455
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That's it. She was already there. She's already naked. You know, I mean, one guy, one really,

456
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:22,160
really horny big gold phalanx, he would have kept it up longer than these seven little dwarfs

457
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:28,800
put together. So she was okay. She made extra money. You know, she just laughed and laughed and laughed.

458
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:39,440
So anyway, East Indians, they really, really crude to the girls. I had no trouble with him ever

459
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:46,800
when it was me and them one-on-one, ever. You got to be careful of their food. They're notorious for

460
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,080
giving you food poisoning in their restaurants. Notorious. I liked East Indian food so much that

461
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:59,120
I chanced it quite a few times and I got sick off of every other food, but I never got sick off East

462
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,960
Indian food there. Maybe the curry kills the bacteria. I don't know what the hell, but...

463
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,520
I don't know. I got along okay. So, you know, like I said in the last tape, I got along with East

464
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Indians, but I had forgotten to mention this other dark aspect of their characters about the girls.

465
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They go around. They don't cause any trouble. They don't start fights. If they drink, they do

466
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:25,200
it somewhere in private. I virtually never saw them in the bars. Never saw them staggering around.

467
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,560
Just virtually never. I don't remember one time I saw them in the bar. I don't remember one time I

468
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,760
saw them staggering around. Just virtually never. I don't remember one incident of it.

469
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,960
They can tend to be quite intelligent people. They're kind of technically oriented.

470
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,680
I've got a good friend up in Bangladesh.

471
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:56,240
We did a lot of stuff together. I remember when Myanmar, Burma was

472
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doing genocide on the Rohingya. I never pronounced it. Rohingya. Rohingya. I never pronounced it

473
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:11,360
correctly. Those are the sort of stateless people who live all through central Burma.

474
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,080
They were being pushed. Well, they've been killed. If they didn't want to be killed,

475
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:24,080
if you could still walk, you had better head north up into the Bangladesh region.

476
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:30,880
They were being pursued by the Burmese army all the way. It was a blood feud kind of a thing.

477
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:36,720
Both sides were wrong. Anyway, I felt bad for these people. Really bad for them.

478
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:44,320
I had that friend up in Bangladesh and I still do. We were trying to arrange some boats

479
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:56,000
to get these people and take them, get them out of the country or some of them wanted to go south

480
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,960
by passing through the country. They were trying to get them out of the country.

481
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:11,280
Some of them wanted to go south and bypass Burma and down into... Where the hell were they going?

482
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,920
I think they wanted to go to Malaysia. As they're being pushed north, they didn't want to go to

483
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Bangladesh. They didn't because that was just camps. It was just camps. It was horrible.

484
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:31,600
The ones in the camps wanted out also. They wanted out before they even got to the camps.

485
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:42,720
We were trying to arrange some boats to get them on lonely stretches of beach in northern Burma,

486
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:53,280
the west coast. Just pick them up off the beach and go offshore away, 20, 30, 50 miles and go south.

487
00:59:53,280 --> 01:00:03,040
Then drop them off where they wanted to go and save their lives. We found out that

488
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,120
the Burmese army was hunting them off the coast.

489
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:20,880
They had a number of pretty good maritime assets out there. Not great stuff, but certainly

490
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:27,440
better than anything we could come up with. They were just hunting the people, hunting them.

491
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:36,000
They would come into beach areas where they knew they were massing up.

492
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,400
I just killed them. Just machine gun spray them.

493
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,800
Some other people had got this boat idea before and they had come in with some boats.

494
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:58,400
They were loading up the Rohingya people, as many as they could take small boats. They could take

495
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,880
10 or they could take 50 depending on the boat. Then they'd head straight out to sea,

496
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,600
30, 40, 50 miles. Then they'd make a left-hand turn and go south.

497
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,400
They cruise along, cruise along out of sight of land pretty much usually.

498
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,120
They're hoping they can just keep cruising and drop them off.

499
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:24,480
Well, the Burmese army or navy I guess out there, if they spotted them, they'd just sink them.

500
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,160
They'd just sink the boats. Blow them out of the water.

501
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,280
I don't know. I don't know any of that. Never made the news,

502
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,160
but probably somebody must have uncovered that. I don't know.

503
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,360
Those guys fell off. The guys who were willing to do that, those numbers fell off.

504
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,760
People didn't want to lose their votes and shit like that.

505
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:53,120
We got this idea, okay, let's try to get a really big boat. We can put 5,000 on a really big boat.

506
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,280
If they can get into the border at Bangladesh,

507
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,320
if they can get across there and they're in the camps,

508
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,400
then we can get them from the camps to the ship. Technically, they're not supposed to leave the camps.

509
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:18,960
They're armed guards, but we felt pretty sure if we spread a little bit of money around to the guards

510
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:25,440
and said, look, we're getting these people out of your hair. You let us take these people

511
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,040
and you don't have to feed them anymore. You don't have to guard them anymore.

512
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,560
We were pretty sure we could get large numbers of them out of the camps.

513
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,480
There was one particular big, big, big camp right across the little

514
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,120
big camp right across the little creek thing there.

515
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,680
So we were trying to get a ship that we could get close to there

516
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,840
and then just fill that turkey up. We thought, okay, with a ship, we're going to go offshore

517
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:03,600
from that area a long way. Let's say 500 miles. We're going to go farther than the Burmese Navy

518
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:09,040
would be. Then we make our left hand turn. We go down. We stay 500 miles offshore all the way down

519
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,480
and probably we wouldn't be bothered, maybe by pirates, but we're not going to get blown

520
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:22,640
out of the water by the Burmese Navy. God, we tried for a long time. We actually found the ship

521
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:34,560
that would work. Then at that point, the problem started and we just could never get it done.

522
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:42,720
We just couldn't get it done. So it was really a heartbreaking thing. I don't know what the current

523
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,480
status of it is. I haven't even looked at it for several years. I don't know what they're doing.

524
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:51,520
I don't know what they're doing. My friend up there had a whole bunch of

525
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:58,560
calamities hitting him in his life. He had a factory up there. He had an apparel factory.

526
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:10,240
He lost that, COVID. I got a message to him like a year ago, said, hey, how are you doing?

527
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:17,520
You know, I'm going to be flying right over your city. You want me to stop? He messaged back and

528
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,960
he's talking along and he's like, well, you know, we have a lot of trouble now. I don't know. Maybe

529
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:32,400
we got really big problems. I'm thinking maybe cut off, stopped. Stopped right there in mid-message.

530
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:43,280
And he sent it, but then he never would reply again after that. So I need to try to get back to him.

531
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,080
I don't know what the nature of the problem was.

532
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,440
Bangladesh is a pretty exotic place. That would be a place to consider. You know, if you've got money,

533
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,600
if you've got money, well, it didn't take much money in Bangladesh, really.

534
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:04,320
Think about it. Don't dismiss it. You know, it's crowded, it's dirty, it's nasty in lots and lots

535
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:12,560
and lots and lots of ways, but it's exotic if you want exotic. Stinky, oh God. Don't go there

536
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:18,880
with any kind of respiratory problem. Get all your shots. That's the one place you go. You get all

537
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:28,160
your freaking shots, you know, really diligently you get your shots. Okay.

538
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:33,760
So that's kind of a just a very big overview of some of the countries you might think about going to.

539
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:43,040
I, if I get tired of Philippines, I was just down getting my mail a little while ago out of my own

540
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:49,440
private box. The mailboxes are situated behind the security counter. No way anybody else can get to them.

541
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:55,680
Then I went down and got my mail and they made me sign for it. It wasn't a registered letter,

542
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,400
I think it was utility bill, but they made me sign to access my own mail in my own box.

543
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,680
Now, if we want to go to our pool, we've got to fill out a form to go to the pool and every person

544
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:14,240
with us has to fill out the same form to go swim for half an hour. And it just goes on and on and

545
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:21,040
on and on and on like that. I'll talk a very great deal more about the Philippines and why it might

546
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:31,280
be a bit too hard for me. Maybe not. Jury's out. Every time I turn around, I'm seeing more and more

547
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,680
the scent of communism in Philippines. Communism.

548
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:44,560
I'll tell you, I'll make a note. I'll tell you some of the shit I saw in what used to be communist

549
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:54,960
Romania and how they were doing things during communism, how they're still doing things.

550
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,840
You need to get these goddamn snowflakes by the scruff of the neck.

551
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:05,200
And shove the goddamn stupid, simply fucking faces into the communist shit that's going on around the

552
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:13,840
world. Say, look, you little twit motherfucker, you stupid little retard. Is this really what you want?

553
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,800
Oh, that's fake. That's not really real. You made this up. Okay.

554
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:30,000
Fucking take them there. Scruff of the neck. Take them there. Make them live there six months. I

555
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,960
guarantee they're going to fucking want out. Jesus Christ, a week they want out and they're going to

556
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:40,960
go back to the US and they're going to apologize for trying to push this goddamn socialist goddamn

557
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,000
mentally retarded fucking agenda.

558
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:53,200
Democracy sucks in all kinds of ways. It's fucked, but it's 60 times less fucked than the socialist way.

559
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,840
And I'm sorry, that's the way the world is. That's very disappointing to me about the world.

560
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:10,080
I would hope the world would be, you know, a little bit more democratic.

561
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:21,280
I would hope the world would be 57 times better, but it's not. So, you know, go start your own country

562
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:33,280
and make it right. You know, if I had magical alien powers, oh fuck, watch out baby. Shit's going to change.

563
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:38,880
Okay. What do we get? What do we get for time? I'm still answering these notes. Yeah, we got lots of time.

564
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:46,880
Cost of living. We kind of covered that. Let me touch on it. Okay. People ask me, oh God, I got a lot of these.

565
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:52,880
People want to know about massage parlors. Oh, hell.

566
01:08:52,880 --> 01:09:00,480
A lot of people, they know what the bars are around Thailand, different countries.

567
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:04,480
They know what the bars are, kind of sort of. They got a big notion of what the bars are.

568
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:12,080
But they think massage parlors, that's a whole different thing. Yeah, so those are like, you know, professional ladies, though.

569
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:17,280
They're medical ladies. They're just barely under a nurse, you know.

570
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:26,880
And those are nice places. God, we find some good ladies there, you know. We'll find a lady to marry there in the massage parlors. Okay.

571
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:36,880
Oh God. I had some friends who have owned massage parlors, some Phalang friends, one of them from New York.

572
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:45,280
And he educated me pretty well. He taught me a lot of things. He taught me a lot of things.

573
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:50,880
And he educated me pretty well. Well, they all did. It fits and starts.

574
01:09:52,480 --> 01:10:00,080
And for a while, I went through a phase where I hung around them because I kind of thought, well, yeah, that's a great above the bars.

575
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,080
That's it. You know, these girls are great above the bars. This is okay.

576
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:14,080
Maybe I can find a nice girl. I actually thought that. I actually fucking thought that. I must have dreamed it some night.

577
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:20,080
Well, I took some compound that didn't agree with me, you know.

578
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,080
Okay. Bars.

579
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:32,080
Massage parlors. Bars. Massage parlors. Bars. Massage parlors.

580
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:42,080
It's all the same. It's the same word. Same meaning. It's all the same. Bars. Massage parlors. It's all the same. It's the same thing.

581
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:50,080
Virtually every girl working in a massage parlor came from the bar.

582
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:58,080
And virtually every girl working in... No, no, not virtually every girl. Many of the girls working in the bars came from the massage parlors.

583
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:06,080
Okay. You do have to go to school to get a massage license. Thailand. And other countries too.

584
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,080
The school is silly. It's just silly.

585
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:18,080
You just go to a place and they tell you some stuff and you watch some movies and then you practice a little bit and your friends are aware of the fuck.

586
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:24,080
And they give you a license. They don't give a rat's ass because they know you're not going to do a fucking massage.

587
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,080
You're there to fuck.

588
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:41,080
How much is a massage in Thailand? Well, there's various different massages. I was having a lot of feet trouble for a while.

589
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:50,080
And me and girlfriend would go together and get... Well, she got normal massage. I got a foot massage.

590
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:57,080
Her normal massage was... I think in those days it was 200 bucks. So it's six bucks.

591
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,080
And that would be an hour. That's an hour.

592
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:14,080
And it would be a reasonably energetic massage, but with virtually no training or skill behind it.

593
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,080
It's just somebody rubbing your body and squeezing your muscles. You know, pretty much.

594
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:23,080
Now I've had some that were... They were a little more technically oriented.

595
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:31,080
And they kind of hurt me. Quite a few times I had to ask those ones to stop.

596
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:39,080
Take it easy. How about that? Oh, Jesus. Right now my fucking tendon's torn. You know, God damn it.

597
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:45,080
So they can... You can tell them to go soft, but they don't seem to want to.

598
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:54,080
So some of those... You get Thai massage and you get other kinds of massage and you better know what they are.

599
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:59,080
But they're all... In those days, they were 200 bucks. I think now they're probably 300, 350 bucks.

600
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:09,080
So still under 10 bucks for an hour. My foot massages were cheaper. They were like under 200 bucks for an hour.

601
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,080
And you can double up. You want two, three hours? Do it. I used to do it.

602
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:22,080
The girls... Most of them are going to be attractive.

603
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:29,080
And even if you don't want sex, it's just... It's a nice thing to have a beautiful girl rub you down.

604
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:34,080
Don't care. It's nice. An awful lot of guys fall asleep during the massage.

605
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:39,080
An awful lot of guys lose their wallet, their phone, their watch while they're sleeping.

606
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:45,080
Jesus fucking Christ. How fucking stupid are you? How fucking stupid are you?

607
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,080
You go in, you take your clothes off and they give you these little bikini panty things.

608
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:55,080
It sounds kind of unseemly, but anyway, they're disposable. Jesus Christ.

609
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,080
And you'd sort of dance around those things and you lay down on this mat.

610
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:04,080
And they put a fresh sheet down there. And they get up the oils and the shit.

611
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:09,080
They turn the lights down, maybe have some music, probably have some music.

612
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:17,080
And they'll have some kind of a uniform thing on, but it's going to be somewhat revealing.

613
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:25,080
And you're going to spend a lot of time laying on your stomach, unless you're not shy.

614
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:32,080
And you'll get a nice massage. And somewhere along during the massage,

615
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:39,080
either early on or later on, they will say, do you want, you know, their equivalent of a happy ending.

616
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:44,080
Nearly everyone will ask you or they'll let you know that that's an option.

617
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:50,080
To be clear, you know, there won't be any mistake because philangs are stupid and they got to be clear.

618
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:59,080
I never, ever, ever, ever, ever would do that. I just, that just seemed even more unseemly than going to a bar girl.

619
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:05,080
I don't know why. I just really cut against my grain.

620
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:10,080
I have been thrown out of two massage parlors in Thailand.

621
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:19,080
First time I went in and I wasn't big on massage. Some guys are. Jesus God, they want them every stinking day.

622
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:28,080
Happy ending or not, they just love that massage. Well, I was OK with it, but I would get one like every five months or something, you know.

623
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:34,080
Just very rarely. I'd have to be in a certain mood for it.

624
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:41,080
You know, they're cheap, but I just, I wasn't, I'm not a big massage kind of a person. Sometimes I've had a few that were just sublime.

625
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:48,080
Most of them, I just feel kind of uncomfortable and I know what they want.

626
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,080
And so that puts a stress on it.

627
01:15:52,080 --> 01:16:02,080
And I just waiting for them to pop the question and then they do. And then I feel uncomfortable because I got to say no.

628
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:07,080
Anyway, so I just wasn't never do that.

629
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:12,080
First time this happened to me, I went into one.

630
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:22,080
Let's see, it was in a in a busy soy and there's got every third door as a massage parlor, every third shop.

631
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:30,080
And they usually have an upstairs, not always, but they usually have an upstairs. They'll take you upstairs, put you in a room, private room.

632
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:36,080
And I went in there. I did that. I went up the floor or two, you know, 100 degrees.

633
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:42,080
You still got to walk up to those floors, sometimes third or fourth or fifth floor.

634
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:49,080
And there's no fans or air conditioning until you get up there and then you walk into this room that's 110 degrees and then they'll turn on the air conditioning.

635
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:57,080
And that takes 20 minutes for that to cool down. And, you know, so I did whatever they wanted and I laid down and started doing the massage.

636
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:11,080
And let's see that one. Yeah, well, that one, she was into the massage for no more than five or seven minutes.

637
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:23,080
And she said, do you want sex? And I just said, oh, no, no, no, thanks. No, no, just just a massage. You know, that's OK. Just a massage.

638
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:31,080
And she stopped for a minute and then she just erupted. Why you come here? Why you come here, stupid felling?

639
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:38,080
Why you don't want sex? Everybody wants sex. Everybody know you don't come here for massage. You come here for sex.

640
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:45,080
And I just drew back and I'm like, well, this one's probably over, isn't it?

641
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:51,080
And she just ran it on. She wouldn't stop. She would shut up. And I said little or nothing.

642
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:58,080
I was in shock. I was like, well, I know a lot of guys want sex, but I don't. I just want a massage.

643
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:03,080
Really, truly. I don't know. I guess that makes me weird. I'm sorry. But that's what I want. I just want the massage.

644
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:12,080
And she's going on about on and on about how she if she gives me a massage, that's going to take her an hour.

645
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,080
She's going to get two or three hundred baht. If she fucks me, that's going to take 15, 20 minutes.

646
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:23,080
She's going to get a thousand baht. So she's like, well, what do I you know, this is no renter.

647
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:27,080
You know, what would you do?

648
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:33,080
And she she wound herself up. I didn't have to wind her up.

649
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:39,080
She wound herself up and she finally just stood up and she's just ranting and yelling, get out, get out, get out, stupid felling.

650
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:46,080
Get out. You know, and I didn't pay her. I get up and got dressed and went out and all the customers downstairs

651
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,080
could hear it. And they're like, oh, God, this guy must have turned a fucker in the ass or something.

652
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:54,080
You know, he did something really bad. And it was very humiliating for me.

653
01:18:54,080 --> 01:19:01,080
I went down, walked out, shaking my head, got on the motorbike, drove away.

654
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,080
What the fucking fuck? Jesus Christ.

655
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,080
We're down the rabbit hole now.

656
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:16,080
Kicked out. 86.

657
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:22,080
So I just went home and I didn't think about it. So I just for a really long time after that.

658
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:28,080
And then finally, one day I just sort of thought, well, you know, that was a one off.

659
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:36,080
Let's try it again. A whole completely different part of town, you know, hoping that girl hadn't moved over to that one.

660
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:42,080
But they move around all the time. Every few weeks they rotate.

661
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:50,080
And walked in there and I drew an older lady. You can choose them or you can just take the next one in the queue.

662
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:58,080
And I just let the next one in the queue came up. She was older, not attractive at all, really. Not at all.

663
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:05,080
And we went up. She started the massage and she was into it about the same period, about five or seven minutes, something like that.

664
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:12,080
And she did the exact same thing. And her reaction was exactly the same. And she threw me out.

665
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:17,080
And this wasn't in an entertainment soy or a busy soy or anything. This was...

666
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,080
That's why I chose it, because it was off by itself, kind of in the jungle.

667
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:29,080
And I thought, well, this cannot be a sex massage place because if it is, they're never going to get any customers.

668
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:35,080
So, you know, they must have chosen this location because they didn't want to be involved in the sex trade.

669
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:42,080
Same fucking thing. Exactly. Exactly. Wrote away.

670
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:52,080
Many years later, I was in Isan.

671
01:20:52,080 --> 01:21:00,080
Staying there, trying to woo some stupid girl, which is one of the dumbest things I ever did.

672
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:08,080
I was trying to woo her. She was trying to get my money. And I realized it fairly quickly.

673
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:20,080
And, you know, just turned off the switch. But anyway, I went to a massage parlor there, teeny tiny little rice town.

674
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:26,080
And I thought, OK, you know, I'm not even in an entertainment city. There's no phalanx here.

675
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:35,080
I was like the only goddamn one. And I walked in and said, I want a massage.

676
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:45,080
I said, OK. And I drew another older lady. We went in and she gave me a perfect massage.

677
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:53,080
Never once even hinted anything about sex. I don't know if I would have brought it up, if she would have been receptive to it.

678
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:59,080
I don't know. I rather imagine yes, because almost every single girl in Thailand is receptive to it.

679
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:06,080
Almost every single one, if they're approached correctly.

680
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:14,080
Almost everyone. Married, unmarried, professional, unprofessional, whatever.

681
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:19,080
But anyway, I didn't bring it up and she didn't. And she did a nice massage. Full hour, hour and five.

682
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:27,080
Paid her, tipped her, thanked her. She smiled wide, bowed, done, gone.

683
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:33,080
Yeah, thank you. Finally, after all that shit, I got a real massage. Fuck.

684
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:44,080
And that was really cheap up there. That was like 160 bucks, maybe five dollars, 60 cents, something like that, for over an hour.

685
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:53,080
I don't know what that costs now. I haven't even looked at their signs, you know, for some number of years, even when I was there.

686
01:22:53,080 --> 01:23:00,080
I sort of wore down so many things that were fascinating in the first few years. You know, they become less fascinating.

687
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:12,080
Many times I have moved into high rises with views to die for in cities all around the world.

688
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:19,080
And half the time, that's what gets you to rent the place. You walk in and you look.

689
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:26,080
Oh, my God. And you know, you're up on 50 and you're looking out over some city or whatever, the ocean or whatever.

690
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:35,080
Sold. I'll take it. You don't care anything about it because you know you're going to spend the rest of your life sitting on that balcony.

691
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:41,080
Just gazing out there, sipping wine.

692
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:47,080
And you do for the first six or eight months.

693
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:54,080
Then little by little, you realize you don't even glance out there anymore for long, long, long periods of time.

694
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,080
And when you do go out there and sit, you barely even look over the edge.

695
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:03,080
So every place will do that to you. Familiarity breeds contempt.

696
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:08,080
And you don't have to be necessarily contemptuous about it. You just.

697
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:16,080
Familiarity does breed contempt, but you could also say familiarity breeds boredom.

698
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:20,080
And you just, it just becomes old.

699
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:27,080
So even in this in these thrilling entertainment soys.

700
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:37,080
Thrilling shit going on. You cannot possibly imagine we'll get to that.

701
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,080
I would walk through them or I would ride a motorbike through.

702
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:48,080
A lot of times I would go there trying to sort of rekindle my sense of wonder for this place, this kingdom.

703
01:24:48,080 --> 01:25:00,080
And it mostly didn't work. You know, before I would go through there and my excitement level would go from zero to one hundred and four percent.

704
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:07,080
And then years and years later, it would go from zero to.

705
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:11,080
Thirteen percent, you know.

706
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:24,080
And the girls are running out from the bars and they're grabbing your hand and shoving them down their panties and trying to get you to do other things with your hands, you know, standing there in the soys.

707
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:30,080
And you just don't do anything. You just like, yeah, OK, I am sorry. You know, I feel kind of tired.

708
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,080
You just keep walking. You don't have any feeling for that anymore.

709
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:42,080
So I think probably it's a case where absolutely anything, any environment on the face of the earth.

710
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:46,080
Will lead you to that.

711
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:53,080
Now, there's a guy who wrote some books.

712
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:57,080
Lots of people have now. This is probably the first guy.

713
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:04,080
And he swore, he swore, swore, swore, swore, swore that he went to heaven. A few times.

714
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:10,080
And his experience with heaven, as reported by him.

715
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:15,080
Exactly the same.

716
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:22,080
After a while.

717
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:30,080
It just became a kind of a null thing.

718
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:36,080
And I believe that.

719
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:40,080
So.

720
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:44,080
Bar girls, massage girls.

721
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:49,080
They switch back and forth between the bars and the massage parlor, wherever they think they can make a little money, you know.

722
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:54,080
Maybe they got some friend working at the bar, they'll quit the massage, they'll go work in there with their friend and then vice versa.

723
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,080
They switch around. It's the same girls. OK.

724
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:06,080
Same girls. Just a different method of going about getting your money and fucking you.

725
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:13,080
I had one. I went into entertainment. Sorry.

726
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:19,080
Fairly bit in the early years and I went in there and wanted a massage.

727
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:25,080
I just wanted a massage, but I was hoping to see. At that time I thought, well, these girls are a cut above the bar girls.

728
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:29,080
Maybe there's some nice ones to be found in there, you know. Maybe there's a keeper.

729
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:37,080
And so I went in there and a beautiful girl, I drew her and we went up, got the massage.

730
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:45,080
There is getting the massage and she decided she wanted to make up.

731
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:51,080
And, you know, instantly I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, sorry. No, no, no, no. My, my, my, my, my, my, no, I don't know.

732
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:56,080
I don't want the sex. I don't want. So I know my my bubble.

733
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:04,080
And she stopped, just just barely broke her stride and she said, that's OK, I just want to kiss.

734
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:08,080
And I was like, oh, really?

735
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:13,080
And she's like, you don't have to pay me. You know, I just I just want to kiss you.

736
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,080
OK, at the time, I thought, oh, oh, fucking hell, that means she genuinely likes me.

737
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:23,080
Oh, God, this is thrilling. This is great.

738
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,080
Probably. I never found out for sure.

739
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:39,080
Probably she was just taken the long road to try to get some money.

740
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:45,080
You know, these girls don't have to like you at all. And the very high percentage of them won't.

741
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:52,080
They'll just see this as their job to seduce you, maybe to get you to marry them.

742
01:28:52,080 --> 01:29:00,080
Or happens to get you to support them so they can send money back home to the carpet sharks playing in the chicken field.

743
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:07,080
Probably theirs and the parents who are old.

744
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:13,080
So this is their job.

745
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:24,080
And these high girls, especially even if they hate your guts, you might not ever know it.

746
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:32,080
And these huge, greasy, sweaty, old, fat, god damn guys.

747
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:36,080
They almost never figured out.

748
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,080
I had a friend.

749
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:43,080
Terrible story.

750
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,080
Hopefully this is the last story.

751
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,080
I had this friend.

752
01:29:49,080 --> 01:30:00,080
He was an Australian sea traffic controller.

753
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:08,080
One of the finest people I ever knew. I had worked in that industry and I wanted to be on the boat end of it.

754
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:13,080
And he was on the controller end of it. So we knew that whole industry backwards and forwards really well.

755
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:18,080
We could converse about every aspect of it. And we just hit it off.

756
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:22,080
Our demeanors were the same.

757
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,080
We were good friends.

758
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:32,080
And I really valued his friendship really quite a lot. And I knew him for a long time, a year or two.

759
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:37,080
And he had to go back to work sometimes in Australia. Then he'd come back and go back and back and back.

760
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:42,080
He'd been doing that all his life because Australia, especially Northern Australia, is so close to Thailand.

761
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,080
It's only a few hours to hop over there.

762
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:54,080
It's like you would hop to Hawaii. It's not even that far, I don't think.

763
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,080
And he was always looking for a good girl.

764
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:02,080
His wife had been a bitch, Australian bitch. And he hated her and they divorced.

765
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,080
And she took him and usual story.

766
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:11,080
And he had some health issues and I tried a little bit to help him with those.

767
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,080
A little bit of knowledge I had.

768
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,080
I mean, I knew about horses.

769
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:25,080
If some people are horse-like, I can help them, you know, a little bit.

770
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,080
OK.

771
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:39,080
And we got to be just nice friends. And we met together every time we got a chance.

772
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:44,080
And he's trying different girls, trying different girls. And he just had a knack for getting the losers.

773
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:48,080
And I knew almost all the ones he was getting.

774
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:53,080
And he had not yet figured out that bar girls were not going to work.

775
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,080
Or anything permanent. He had not figured this out.

776
01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:00,080
And so many guys. What percentage of guys never figured this out?

777
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:06,080
Shit. It's huge. I would guess somewhere around 80 percent.

778
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:13,080
Never figured this out. They're still thinking they're going to get a bar girl or hook her off the street, whatever the fuck, freelance or whatever.

779
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:18,080
And she's going to fall in love with him.

780
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:23,080
And she's going to change.

781
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:27,080
80 percent. And she's not.

782
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,080
She's not.

783
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,080
She can pretend, usually only for a while.

784
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:36,080
She's not going to change in her heart. Her heart.

785
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:42,080
The first hour that she made that decision to go work in the bar, her heart.

786
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:46,080
Changed.

787
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,080
Now, I did tell you the story about that one that I hung around with for some years.

788
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,080
And she did change.

789
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:57,080
So there's a teensy, tiny microscopic percentage who can.

790
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,080
Well, no, I take that back. I take it back.

791
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,080
She didn't change, at least not in the beginning, because she went into that relationship.

792
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:09,080
She married the guy, even though she patently didn't like him.

793
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:13,080
She just went in to get money for her and her daughters.

794
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:25,080
She said later, after two or three years, she learned to love him.

795
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:31,080
I don't know what to say to that. Maybe she did. I'm not sure.

796
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:39,080
I do believe, I do believe this. I believe this part 100 percent. That girl would never cheat on him.

797
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:44,080
I don't know if she truly did love him, but I believe she would not cheat on him. She would not.

798
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:50,080
I do believe that. As much as any male can ever know that.

799
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:54,080
And pretty often we don't know.

800
01:33:54,080 --> 01:34:03,080
The day we die, we're not going to know if she ever did.

801
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:10,080
So, you know. Anyway, so this guy, this Australian guy,

802
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:17,080
he finally hooked up with a girl in the bar where I hung out. I can't remember her name. She was sat.

803
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:21,080
I never liked her. I just instinctively didn't like her.

804
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,080
You know, she came and sat at my table with other girls. I wouldn't talk to her.

805
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,080
I just don't know why. I just didn't like her. I didn't want to know her.

806
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,080
Something about her. She just put me off.

807
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:36,080
She got hooked up with him and he took her quite a few times.

808
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:43,080
Paid the going rate, you know. And then on the days that he didn't show up, she'd go to the customers and like that.

809
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:46,080
She didn't get that many customers because she was fat.

810
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:51,080
Guys don't want that. Southeast Asia. They don't want. They want. They want.

811
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:56,080
The opposite of what they had in their home country.

812
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:02,080
But he started to like her more than he should have.

813
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:09,080
And I thought, God, come on. Come on here. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up.

814
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:13,080
You sleeping? You know, you've been here often on your whole life.

815
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:19,080
You've got to know better than this. Oh, I know. But you know, maybe she's OK.

816
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:24,080
OK, so he would take her to the hotel.

817
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:30,080
She'd come back the next day. He'd be off somewhere eating or sleeping or whatever the hell.

818
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:36,080
And she'd come into the bar, sit down with us, with our group and.

819
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:44,080
Laugh and laugh and laugh. About how bad he was in bed.

820
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:51,080
How his cock was so fucking small, she could barely feel if it was in there.

821
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:57,080
And he did this wrong and he did that wrong and he was so clumsy.

822
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:05,080
She never came once, you know, and she would just go on and on and on, just just rinking him in front of everybody in front of me.

823
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:10,080
I don't know what the fuck she thought. She thought, I guess, I liked her so much that I would never tell him.

824
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,080
I don't know what she must have thought that.

825
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,080
And she would talk sometimes in Thai. The Thai girls would just translate whatever the fuck she said.

826
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:22,080
So I knew everything she said.

827
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,080
Jesus Christ. And so I kept my mouth shut about that for a while.

828
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:31,080
I didn't know how to deal with it.

829
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:36,080
Quite a while, a couple of months. And she just continued this on and on and on.

830
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:43,080
Never stopped. And the other girls thought she was pretty shitty for doing this.

831
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,080
But they're. They do the same thing.

832
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:54,080
You know, they all come back from the customers and they talk about every aspect of how that night went, you know.

833
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:59,080
And they're just going to rank, even if there's no reason to rank on the filet, you're going to rank on the filet.

834
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:09,080
Because he didn't offer to marry him. So therefore he's a bad man and they have to punish him by making up lies.

835
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:16,080
So finally, I got to the point I couldn't take it anymore.

836
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:22,080
Oh, and she would also talk about how she'd get little bits of money out of his wallet when he was sleeping.

837
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:31,080
And I got to the point where I cracked and I said, OK, that's it. This is my red line. I'm done. I got to talk to him.

838
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:35,080
He's my friend. I didn't want to hurt his feelings.

839
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:42,080
And I knew this was going to hurt his feelings because he liked her more and more and more.

840
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:52,080
So I met him and we had a talk and I told him most of the stuff she was saying and what she was doing.

841
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:59,080
She'd sit there and. Other guys would come in.

842
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:05,080
I mean, in his mind was marriage. He's thinking, man, this could be the one. This could be the one to marry.

843
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:11,080
She would sit there in the bar when he wasn't there and other guys would come in.

844
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,080
And she'd look around quickly, quickly. Where's where's so and so? Where's so and so?

845
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:18,080
Oh, God fucking hell, I hope he doesn't show up because I'm going to fuck that one.

846
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:22,080
I'm going to take that one right now. Short time, one hour.

847
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,080
Oh, Jesus Christ. OK, well, you know.

848
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:29,080
So anyway, I told him pretty much all I didn't tell him everything I told him.

849
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:33,080
80, 90 percent of it. I didn't tell him the really, really hurtful stuff.

850
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:40,080
Some of it he forced me to cough forth and I resisted and I didn't want to.

851
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:44,080
But I but I did, but I still didn't tell him all of it.

852
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,080
And I thought, OK, yeah, God, yeah, it's done.

853
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,080
You know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry about this.

854
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:55,080
You know. I'm sorry I kept it from you for so long.

855
01:38:55,080 --> 01:39:04,080
I'm sorry she's. Satan incarnate. Peace side.

856
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:10,080
And he thought about this for quite a while, asked a few more questions.

857
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:14,080
And then I think we kind of broke up for that night.

858
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,080
And. I guess I'm the next day or a couple of few days.

859
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:22,080
Yes, on a few days later, he had taken her again after I left

860
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:27,080
and she had stayed with him for those few days.

861
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:33,080
And when I when I met him again, he's like, well, I'm going back to Australia.

862
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:38,080
Oh, you got to go back to work.

863
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:46,080
And he's like, well, maybe, I don't know, but I mean, so and so we're going back to where we get married.

864
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:51,080
You know, my eyes just like.

865
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:56,080
I swatter over the head, you know.

866
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:01,080
I'm like, no, I didn't say that.

867
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:05,080
My attitude was. No, this can't can't be happening.

868
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:09,080
You're you're you're a smart guy. You're smart guy.

869
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:14,080
And you've been around here your whole life, way longer than me.

870
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,080
And you still haven't figured this out. I know you're lonely.

871
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:23,080
You know that I didn't say any of this. Well, I know I did say some of it in nice ways.

872
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:27,080
And I'm just like, how would you know you need an intervention here?

873
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:31,080
Something there's something going on in your brain. You know, you go off your meds.

874
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:35,080
Did you take too many meds? Really? You're my friend.

875
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:39,080
I care about you. I what can I do?

876
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:43,080
You know, how can we help you think this through more clearly?

877
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:50,080
And oh, Jesus, God, it was.

878
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:56,080
Horrible. It's like watching your your daughter go out on a date with Freddie Krueger.

879
01:40:56,080 --> 01:41:02,080
Really, it was just like that.

880
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:06,080
Oh, Jesus. And he was just steadfast.

881
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:12,080
He was not to be deterred. He was steadfast. They were going to do this.

882
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:24,080
And they were going to go get married, be gone three, four, five days, and then they're going to come back.

883
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:29,080
And he did. He did that.

884
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:35,080
And I wanted to just kill her. I wanted to just kill her.

885
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:42,080
Just take her for a fucking boat ride, you know.

886
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,080
I truly hated her. And I told her so.

887
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,080
And she just laughed. Yeah, why do I care?

888
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:54,080
You know, up to me, up to me. You know, that's the tiny thing.

889
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,080
Oh, God. And I discussed it with Mama San.

890
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,080
Look, look, look what this girl's doing to this guy.

891
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,080
And Mama San is like, well, he's an adult.

892
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:07,080
You know, I see this 50 times a day.

893
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,080
He's an adult. And she learned long ago.

894
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:13,080
You just don't even you don't even process that thought.

895
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,080
You just let it play out however it's going to play out.

896
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,080
And I had two ways I could go. I could remain his friend

897
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:27,080
and try to support him through all the shit she was going to do to him.

898
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:36,080
And then end up really, really wanting to buy a hit on her.

899
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:39,080
Not hard to do there.

900
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:52,080
Or I could realize that whole thing was just out of my universe.

901
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,080
And I could unfriend him.

902
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:59,080
And it was a hard thing I thought about for a long time.

903
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,080
What should I do? What should I do?

904
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,080
I mean, on the one hand, you stick with your friends.

905
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,080
No matter what happens, you stick with your friends.

906
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:12,080
Thick and thin, right?

907
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:17,080
But on the other hand, if you've got the drunk in your family,

908
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,080
they're hopeless drunk. You've been a drunk all their life.

909
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:23,080
Raging alcoholic.

910
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:29,080
And they're tearing the family apart.

911
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,080
Do you stick with them? No.

912
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,080
Because you know it's not ever going to get cured.

913
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:38,080
And the damage is just going to continue for as long as they're in your life.

914
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,080
Come loose.

915
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:44,080
That was my solution with drunks in my family and my circle of friends.

916
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:48,080
And I never once regretted it because they stayed drunks their entire lives.

917
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:54,080
And they ruined every life that they touched.

918
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,080
This wasn't...

919
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:03,080
I don't know. I was going to say this wasn't this guy's fault.

920
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:05,080
It was some brain anomaly.

921
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,080
Something in his brain.

922
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:14,080
Maybe it was loneliness on a level that I could never comprehend.

923
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:20,080
Loneliness so profound

924
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:26,080
that he was not in control of his faculties.

925
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:32,080
He would have welcomed the devil himself

926
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:37,080
if the devil just gave him a hug.

927
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,080
I don't know.

928
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:41,080
But I just knew that I couldn't watch it.

929
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,080
I couldn't watch it play out anymore.

930
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:48,080
So he did. He went and married her.

931
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,080
Came back.

932
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:54,080
They hung around on the bars for three more weeks.

933
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:58,080
And she fucked him over really, really, really bad.

934
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:03,080
Got a bunch of money.

935
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:08,080
And he did dump her.

936
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,080
And then went back, you know, looking for another one.

937
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,080
Same places.

938
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,080
Same methods, same ways.

939
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:21,080
I saw him a couple of years later. Just ran into him in town.

940
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:26,080
And I wanted to see if we could do anything about getting past that whole thing.

941
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:30,080
And I went up and said, hey, how you doing?

942
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,080
He had another new one by then.

943
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,080
And he just turned away, wouldn't look at me.

944
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:43,080
And I fully understand that because I abandoned him.

945
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,080
So I keep telling you,

946
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,080
if you want to have a nice life, retire.

947
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:52,080
Have a nice life, peaceful life, productive life.

948
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,080
A safe, insane life.

949
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,080
A logical life. A rational, reasoning life.

950
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:03,080
Have a lot of fun.

951
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,080
Just do that chemical castration.

952
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,080
Just do it.

953
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:17,080
So these thoughts never enter your head.

954
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:23,080
Because it's going to be bullshit.

955
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,080
It is. There's no way around it.

956
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:30,080
I don't care how careful you are. I don't care.

957
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:34,080
You're thinking about this guy. You're thinking, oh, God, I never would have been that stupid.

958
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,080
Oh, fuck, I'm 10,000 times smarter than that.

959
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,080
You know, well, yeah, you probably are.

960
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,080
You might be smarter than that guy.

961
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:47,080
But they get you in 100,000 other ways that you will not see coming.

962
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:54,080
You know, it's like when a sniper wants to get you, he's going to.

963
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:58,080
I don't care what the environment is out in the woods, in the middle of a city.

964
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:01,080
It doesn't matter.

965
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:06,080
If somebody wants to get you, they will.

966
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,080
And there's nothing you can do to stop it.

967
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:15,080
If somebody wants your ass bad enough, you cannot stop it.

968
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:25,080
The thing is, you will never hear the bang.

969
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:34,080
Because the bullet travels faster than sound.

970
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:38,080
OK. Life in Southeast Asia can be harsh.

971
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:48,080
It's the school of compressed learning in every way, in every aspect of life.

972
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:56,080
Relationships, especially, but in every other way, too.

973
01:47:56,080 --> 01:48:00,080
Man, I miss that guy.

974
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,080
I wish that girl had never come along.

975
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:15,080
I wish she had found a good one, but he will only look in places where you're not going to find a good one.

976
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:27,080
Or if you do, it's, you know, if you have, let's say, 100 lifetimes to spend looking for girls in that environment for a good one.

977
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:32,080
Yeah, you probably find one within 100 lifetimes.

978
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:40,080
But there's other places where the odds are infinitely better.

979
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,080
So just stop wasting time.

980
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:46,080
You know, if you like girls just to go sleep with them, oh, fuck it.

981
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:51,080
Oh, God, it's heaven. It's heaven. It's heaven. Heaven. Heaven.

982
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,080
That's all you want.

983
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,080
But the problem is this.

984
01:48:55,080 --> 01:49:02,080
You go around, get all these girls, they're just prettier and prettier and prettier.

985
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:07,080
Some are so sweet and some will convince you they'll die without you.

986
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,080
OK, well, you're smart. You're a worldly guy.

987
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:16,080
Shrug them off because you know better. You've seen all that shit. You've been around the world, you know.

988
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:22,080
Sooner or later, one will get under your skin.

989
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,080
She'll get through to you. She'll get into your blood.

990
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:32,080
Sooner or later, it's like pouring water on the rock. Sooner or later, you'll find a way in.

991
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:38,080
And one of them will. And then...

992
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:44,080
you are well and truly fucked.

993
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:48,080
Because she owns you.

994
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:53,080
And if your heart is not pure,

995
01:49:53,080 --> 01:50:00,080
she's going to shake your soul like a dog shaking a rag.

996
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,080
And your life is going to go down the tube.

997
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:09,080
You might end up killing yourself. Lots and lots and lots of guys do.

998
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:12,080
She might end up killing you.

999
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:17,080
They kill lots and lots and lots of phoenix.

1000
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:22,080
Lots of them.

1001
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:26,080
OK, I'm done.

1002
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:31,080
Jeez. Where are we at for time? Yeah, we're pretty... Oh no, we're way over time.

1003
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:35,080
Oh, holy crap, gotta go, gotta go. All right. Thank you very much.

1004
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:39,080
This is 16. Next one will be 17.

1005
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:45,080
Thank you very much. That's it. We're done. Good evening. Good night. Bye bye.

1006
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:47,080
Where's the camera? There it is.

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